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Celeby May 12, 2026 ยท 19:29
Thanks ModoX, yes am using those but sometimes i need to add time delay
ModoX May 12, 2026 ยท 19:31
Trigger timed action list after data set then
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Naddley Its the same like c++. If you dont know what youre doing it probably dont work
Celeby May 12, 2026 ยท 19:32
Hence why am asking here... furthermore, that Text over takes a param with a creature entry... why when it only works with the trigger npc and not cross npcs... It is confusing as...
ModoX Trigger timed action list after data set then
Celeby May 12, 2026 ยท 19:33
Yeah that looks like the only option
ModoX May 12, 2026 ยท 19:33
unless @Meji has better ideas yeah
ModoX May 12, 2026 ยท 19:33
in c++ you can use DoAction, schedule stuff in TaskScheduler, EventMap or if everything else fails BasicEvents :D
Celeby May 12, 2026 ยท 19:34
Yeah and not have 100 lines of SAI for simple stuff
ModoX May 12, 2026 ยท 19:37
well that depends :kekw:
Celeby May 27, 2026 ยท 10:22
Does any1 know which db table(s) we need to use to have a mob have multiple spawn points?
Naddley May 27, 2026 ยท 10:25
Multiple creature spawns which are pooled
Naddley May 27, 2026 ยท 10:25
Same way like my copper veins commit
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Celeby May 27, 2026 ยท 10:48
Thanks! So pool_template to define the group and pool_members for the actual grouped spawns?
ModoX May 27, 2026 ยท 12:59
Yes
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Celeby May 27, 2026 ยท 14:07
Thanks both! I got it ๐Ÿ™‚
Celeby May 28, 2026 ยท 14:08
Is it currently possible to have spawns "at night"? or how could we determine on server side that it is "at night"?
Shauren May 28, 2026 ยท 14:11
by linking them to game_event
Shauren May 28, 2026 ยท 14:11
there is one entry for "night" already, 25
Shauren May 28, 2026 ยท 14:12
it... may need end_time extension at this point
Celeby May 28, 2026 ยท 14:44
And for the daytime spawns or regular spawns can we use a condition to not have them spawn if event 25 active?
Shauren May 28, 2026 ยท 14:48
you use -25 as eventEntry to despawn when event starts
Celeby May 28, 2026 ยท 14:48
oooh sweet
Celeby May 28, 2026 ยท 14:48
Thanks! Will check it out
Celeby May 28, 2026 ยท 15:03
It works! Thanks @Shauren ๐Ÿ™Œ
j872 Jun 06, 2026 ยท 19:53
@Fabian aitn that possible to run new warden withwout work with wow_loader?
Fabian Jun 06, 2026 ยท 19:55
I donโ€™t think I answer questions about those things
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j872 Jun 06, 2026 ยท 19:56
new question - with no patching wow_loader i will be able to run warden?
Fabian Jun 06, 2026 ยท 19:57
Thats not a new one. And donโ€™t expect any loader or warden related answers
j872 Jun 06, 2026 ยท 19:58
w8
Shauren Jun 06, 2026 ยท 19:59
no
Shauren Jun 06, 2026 ยท 20:00
i dont want warden questions answered in here anyway, even if fabian felt like doing it
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j872 Jun 06, 2026 ยท 20:10
thats why waprten had closed his work ?
Bill Jun 16, 2026 ยท 01:53
Hey guys, I'm trying to get the location of NPCs in Retail, but I'm unable to get the location of NPCs from the creatures table for silvermoon npcs. Which database and release should I be using?
Bill Jun 16, 2026 ยท 02:06
Doesn't seem to have a lot of NPCs
Naddley Jun 16, 2026 ยท 03:35
master is mostly a Sandbox after Wotlk content.
Naddley Jun 16, 2026 ยท 03:36
So master is missing a lot and is not "playable" as in a lot of content is not implemented
Naddley So master is missing a lot and is not "playable" as in a lot of content is not iโ€ฆ
Bill Jun 16, 2026 ยท 03:38
Gotcha, do you know of any up to date database?
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Bill Gotcha, do you know of any up to date database?
Naddley Jun 16, 2026 ยท 05:52
If we would have fixes they would be implemented. And no, you will not find anything playable for midnight.
Naddley If we would have fixes they would be implemented. And no, you will not find anytโ€ฆ
Bill Jun 21, 2026 ยท 16:17
How can we get midnight locations?
Naddley Jun 21, 2026 ยท 16:17
Midnight locations as in?
Naddley Midnight locations as in?
Bill Jun 21, 2026 ยท 22:01
NPC locations
Naddley Jun 21, 2026 ยท 22:02
Sniff them with ymir and parse them with WPP to sql output
Naddley Sniff them with ymir and parse them with WPP to sql output
Bill Jun 21, 2026 ยท 22:20
I'm new to all of this, where can I find ymir and WPP?
Nobuemon Jun 21, 2026 ยท 22:37
on github, use the search
Bill Jun 21, 2026 ยท 22:49
@RioMcBoo Thank youj!
RioMcBoo https://github.com/TrinityCore/ymir/releases https://github.com/TrinityCore/WowPโ€ฆ
Bill Jun 21, 2026 ยท 22:50
Are these tools bannable by chance?
Naddley Jun 21, 2026 ยท 22:51 (edited)
Blizz could if they want. But there is no known case for a ban cause of sniffer use.
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Zymus Jun 21, 2026 ยท 22:56
That would be pretty unfortunate. I'm not really a fan of games/anticheat reporting on what processes are running in the first place.
Bill Jun 21, 2026 ยท 23:08
@Naddley I ran WPP on my .pkt file, but where does the output go?
Naddley Jun 21, 2026 ยท 23:08
Did you setup the config?
Bill Jun 21, 2026 ยท 23:09
Oh I found it
Bill Jun 21, 2026 ยท 23:10
Hmm, doesn't contain the cordinates
Naddley Jun 21, 2026 ยท 23:11
:CrowDerp:
Naddley :CrowDerp:
Bill Jun 21, 2026 ยท 23:11
Sorry, trying to learn all of this
Bill Jun 21, 2026 ยท 23:11
Going through the config file
Bill Jun 21, 2026 ยท 23:12
Hmm, not under creature
Bill Jun 21, 2026 ยท 23:12
WorldSafeLocs?
Naddley Jun 21, 2026 ยท 23:12
He?
Naddley Jun 21, 2026 ยท 23:13
What does WorldSafeLocs have to do with the wpp config
Naddley What does WorldSafeLocs have to do with the wpp config
Bill Jun 21, 2026 ยท 23:14
It's a value in there
Bill Jun 21, 2026 ยท 23:14
I'm trying to get NPC coords
Bill Jun 21, 2026 ยท 23:14
Figured that might be something
Bill Jun 21, 2026 ยท 23:14
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Naddley Jun 21, 2026 ยท 23:14
Thats the txt
Bill Jun 21, 2026 ยท 23:15
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Bill Jun 21, 2026 ยท 23:15
Think I found it
Naddley Jun 21, 2026 ยท 23:15
Not the wpp config but okay
Naddley Not the wpp config but okay
Bill Jun 21, 2026 ยท 23:15
Yeah that's the output
Naddley Jun 21, 2026 ยท 23:15
Yeah seems like I talk mostly to myself
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Naddley Yeah seems like I talk mostly to myself
Bill Jun 21, 2026 ยท 23:15
Is that the coords?
Bill Jun 21, 2026 ยท 23:16
For that entry
Bill Jun 21, 2026 ยท 23:16
I don't really know how to verify it
Bill Jun 21, 2026 ยท 23:34 (edited)
@Naddley Sorry to be a pain, I appreciate all of your help
Bill Jun 22, 2026 ยท 00:24
@RioMcBoo Are you able to help me here?
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RioMcBoo Jun 22, 2026 ยท 00:27
Maybe the last line on the screenshot
RioMcBoo Maybe the last line on the screenshot
Bill Jun 22, 2026 ยท 00:29
Thatโ€™s what Iโ€™m thinking, but I have no way to verify it
Bill Thatโ€™s what Iโ€™m thinking, but I have no way to verify it
RioMcBoo Jun 22, 2026 ยท 00:33 (edited)
what you want to verify? It is official sniffs ๐Ÿ™‚ i think you won't get spawn position, but only if you sniff the spawn moment.... but this info can be available for lucky circumstances in some other packet (i am not sure about it)
RioMcBoo Jun 22, 2026 ยท 00:36
for example in ObjectInfo, ObjectUpdateInfo, ObjectMovementInfo (this is just names from my head, and not relevant)
RioMcBoo what you want to verify? It is official sniffs ๐Ÿ™‚ i think you won't get spawn posโ€ฆ
Bill Jun 22, 2026 ยท 00:37
That itโ€™s the correct position for that NPC so I can populate a DB knowing itโ€™s the correct entry and stuff
Bill Jun 22, 2026 ยท 00:37
Ahh thatโ€™s unfortunate if we canโ€™t get their actual position
RioMcBoo Jun 22, 2026 ยท 00:38
if NPC stays all the time - it is 100% its position
RioMcBoo Jun 22, 2026 ยท 00:41
if you talk about Zone/Area Id - i don't know, i have not extracted these data from sniffs yet
RioMcBoo Jun 22, 2026 ยท 00:42
but is should be some dedicated fields in packets
RioMcBoo Jun 22, 2026 ยท 00:43
or some calculation formula, try to find in C++ code
Bill Jun 22, 2026 ยท 01:02
Thank you
Celeby Jun 23, 2026 ยท 15:19
Is there a recommended MySQL version or is this totally up to the user? I know the minimum version is 8 but am wondering if it is โ€œrecommendedโ€ to upgrade to 9 for example or 8.4โ€ฆ
Ovahlord Jun 23, 2026 ยท 15:30
Just use the latest lts version
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Celeby Jun 27, 2026 ยท 14:06
Any idea if there is a DB creature flag that will lead to a npc not leaving a corpse behind and just disappearing? or would that be more a script issue? my deadmines boss does not leave a corpse at all with loot ๐Ÿ™
Shauren Jun 27, 2026 ยท 14:07
is your boss summoner or a permanent spawn? some summons behave like that
Celeby Jun 27, 2026 ยท 15:07
I have the issue with 2 separate bosses: Admiral Ripsnarl - this is a db spawn Captain Cookie - Summoned by Ripsnarl...
Celeby Jun 27, 2026 ยท 15:09
@Shauren I even attempted to spawn Cookie from the map with: me->GetMap()->SummonCreature(Creatures::CaptainCookie, Positions::RipsnarlCaptainCookieSpawn);
Celeby Jun 27, 2026 ยท 15:09
but still same issue... corpse just disappears
Naddley Jun 27, 2026 ยท 15:36 (edited)
TempSummonType, with this you can decide what happens after death/unsummon for Summoned crestures
Celeby Jun 27, 2026 ยท 15:44
Ok so i need to specify the type? Which one is the correct one then? Because if I do not specify the default is TEMPSUMMON_MANUAL_DESPAWN
Celeby Jun 27, 2026 ยท 15:46 (edited)
The strange part is that I do not have that issue with the other bosses... all db spawns ofc.
Celeby Jun 27, 2026 ยท 20:55
I tried alsome->SummonCreature(Creatures::CaptainCookie, Positions::RipsnarlCaptainCookieSpawn, TEMPSUMMON_CORPSE_TIMED_DESPAWN, 120s); but still cookie despawns after death ๐Ÿ™
ModoX Jun 28, 2026 ยท 01:29
I kinda recall that there was something about it when creatures have no loot. To make sure i'd suggest debugging AddObjectToRemoveList
Celeby Jun 28, 2026 ยท 07:16
Iโ€™ll have another look ๐Ÿ™‚ or 2 or three! Thanks all