#๐ใปdb
Celeby
May 12, 2026 ยท 19:29
Thanks ModoX, yes am using those but sometimes i need to add time delay
ModoX
May 12, 2026 ยท 19:31
Trigger timed action list after data set then
Naddley
Its the same like c++. If you dont know what youre doing it probably dont work
Celeby
May 12, 2026 ยท 19:32
Hence why am asking here... furthermore, that Text over takes a param with a creature entry... why when it only works with the trigger npc and not cross npcs... It is confusing as...
ModoX
Trigger timed action list after data set then
Celeby
May 12, 2026 ยท 19:33
Yeah that looks like the only option
ModoX
May 12, 2026 ยท 19:33
unless @Meji has better ideas yeah
ModoX
May 12, 2026 ยท 19:33
in c++ you can use DoAction, schedule stuff in TaskScheduler, EventMap or if everything else fails BasicEvents :D
Celeby
May 12, 2026 ยท 19:34
Yeah and not have 100 lines of SAI for simple stuff
ModoX
May 12, 2026 ยท 19:37
well that depends :kekw:
Celeby
May 27, 2026 ยท 10:22
Does any1 know which db table(s) we need to use to have a mob have multiple spawn points?
Naddley
May 27, 2026 ยท 10:25
Multiple creature spawns which are pooled
Naddley
May 27, 2026 ยท 10:25
Same way like my copper veins commit
Celeby
May 27, 2026 ยท 10:48
Thanks! So pool_template to define the group and pool_members for the actual grouped spawns?
ModoX
May 27, 2026 ยท 12:59
Yes
Celeby
May 27, 2026 ยท 14:07
Thanks both! I got it ๐
Celeby
May 28, 2026 ยท 14:08
Is it currently possible to have spawns "at night"? or how could we determine on server side that it is "at night"?
Shauren
May 28, 2026 ยท 14:11
by linking them to game_event
Shauren
May 28, 2026 ยท 14:11
there is one entry for "night" already, 25
Shauren
May 28, 2026 ยท 14:12
it... may need end_time extension at this point
Celeby
May 28, 2026 ยท 14:44
And for the daytime spawns or regular spawns can we use a condition to not have them spawn if event 25 active?
Shauren
May 28, 2026 ยท 14:48
you use -25 as eventEntry to despawn when event starts
Celeby
May 28, 2026 ยท 14:48
oooh sweet
Celeby
May 28, 2026 ยท 14:48
Thanks! Will check it out
Celeby
May 28, 2026 ยท 15:03
It works! Thanks @Shauren ๐
j872
Jun 06, 2026 ยท 19:53
@Fabian aitn that possible to run new warden withwout work with wow_loader?
Fabian
Jun 06, 2026 ยท 19:55
I donโt think I answer questions about those things
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j872
Jun 06, 2026 ยท 19:56
new question - with no patching wow_loader i will be able to run warden?
Fabian
Jun 06, 2026 ยท 19:57
Thats not a new one. And donโt expect any loader or warden related answers
j872
Jun 06, 2026 ยท 19:58
w8
Shauren
Jun 06, 2026 ยท 19:59
no
Shauren
Jun 06, 2026 ยท 20:00
i dont want warden questions answered in here anyway, even if fabian felt like doing it
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j872
Jun 06, 2026 ยท 20:10
thats why waprten had closed his work ?
Bill
Jun 16, 2026 ยท 01:53
Hey guys, I'm trying to get the location of NPCs in Retail, but I'm unable to get the location of NPCs from the creatures table for silvermoon npcs. Which database and release should I be using?
Bill
Jun 16, 2026 ยท 02:06
Doesn't seem to have a lot of NPCs
Naddley
Jun 16, 2026 ยท 03:35
master is mostly a Sandbox after Wotlk content.
Naddley
Jun 16, 2026 ยท 03:36
So master is missing a lot and is not "playable" as in a lot of content is not implemented
Naddley
So master is missing a lot and is not "playable" as in a lot of content is not iโฆ
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Bill
Jun 16, 2026 ยท 03:38
Gotcha, do you know of any up to date database?
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Bill
Gotcha, do you know of any up to date database?
Naddley
Jun 16, 2026 ยท 05:52
If we would have fixes they would be implemented. And no, you will not find anything playable for midnight.
Naddley
If we would have fixes they would be implemented. And no, you will not find anytโฆ
Bill
Jun 21, 2026 ยท 16:17
How can we get midnight locations?
Naddley
Jun 21, 2026 ยท 16:17
Midnight locations as in?
Naddley
Jun 21, 2026 ยท 22:02
Sniff them with ymir and parse them with WPP to sql output
Naddley
Sniff them with ymir and parse them with WPP to sql output
Bill
Jun 21, 2026 ยท 22:20
I'm new to all of this, where can I find ymir and WPP?
Nobuemon
Jun 21, 2026 ยท 22:37
on github, use the search
Bill
Jun 21, 2026 ยท 22:49
@RioMcBoo Thank youj!
RioMcBoo
https://github.com/TrinityCore/ymir/releases
https://github.com/TrinityCore/WowPโฆ
Bill
Jun 21, 2026 ยท 22:50
Are these tools bannable by chance?
Naddley
Jun 21, 2026 ยท 22:51 (edited)
Blizz could if they want. But there is no known case for a ban cause of sniffer use.
Zymus
Jun 21, 2026 ยท 22:56
That would be pretty unfortunate. I'm not really a fan of games/anticheat reporting on what processes are running in the first place.
Bill
Jun 21, 2026 ยท 23:08
@Naddley I ran WPP on my
.pkt file, but where does the output go?
Naddley
Jun 21, 2026 ยท 23:08
Did you setup the config?
Bill
Jun 21, 2026 ยท 23:09
Oh I found it
Bill
Jun 21, 2026 ยท 23:10
Hmm, doesn't contain the cordinates
Naddley
Jun 21, 2026 ยท 23:11
:CrowDerp:
Bill
Jun 21, 2026 ยท 23:11
Going through the config file
Bill
Jun 21, 2026 ยท 23:12
Hmm, not under creature
Bill
Jun 21, 2026 ยท 23:12
WorldSafeLocs?
Naddley
Jun 21, 2026 ยท 23:12
He?
Naddley
Jun 21, 2026 ยท 23:13
What does WorldSafeLocs have to do with the wpp config
Naddley
What does WorldSafeLocs have to do with the wpp config
Bill
Jun 21, 2026 ยท 23:14
It's a value in there
Bill
Jun 21, 2026 ยท 23:14
I'm trying to get NPC coords
Bill
Jun 21, 2026 ยท 23:14
Figured that might be something
Naddley
Jun 21, 2026 ยท 23:14
Thats the txt
Bill
Jun 21, 2026 ยท 23:15
Think I found it
Naddley
Jun 21, 2026 ยท 23:15
Not the wpp config but okay
Naddley
Jun 21, 2026 ยท 23:15
Yeah seems like I talk mostly to myself
Bill
Jun 21, 2026 ยท 23:16
For that entry
Bill
Jun 21, 2026 ยท 23:16
I don't really know how to verify it
Bill
Jun 21, 2026 ยท 23:34 (edited)
@Naddley Sorry to be a pain, I appreciate all of your help
Bill
Jun 22, 2026 ยท 00:24
@RioMcBoo Are you able to help me here?
RioMcBoo
Maybe the last line on the screenshot
Bill
Jun 22, 2026 ยท 00:29
Thatโs what Iโm thinking, but I have no way to verify it
Bill
Thatโs what Iโm thinking, but I have no way to verify it
RioMcBoo
Jun 22, 2026 ยท 00:33 (edited)
what you want to verify? It is official sniffs ๐
i think you won't get spawn position, but only if you sniff the spawn moment.... but this info can be available for lucky circumstances in some other packet (i am not sure about it)
RioMcBoo
Jun 22, 2026 ยท 00:36
for example in ObjectInfo, ObjectUpdateInfo, ObjectMovementInfo (this is just names from my head, and not relevant)
RioMcBoo
what you want to verify? It is official sniffs ๐
i think you won't get spawn posโฆ
Bill
Jun 22, 2026 ยท 00:37
That itโs the correct position for that NPC so I can populate a DB knowing itโs the correct entry and stuff
Bill
Jun 22, 2026 ยท 00:37
Ahh thatโs unfortunate if we canโt get their actual position
RioMcBoo
Jun 22, 2026 ยท 00:38
if NPC stays all the time - it is 100% its position
RioMcBoo
Jun 22, 2026 ยท 00:41
if you talk about Zone/Area Id - i don't know, i have not extracted these data from sniffs yet
RioMcBoo
Jun 22, 2026 ยท 00:42
but is should be some dedicated fields in packets
RioMcBoo
Jun 22, 2026 ยท 00:43
or some calculation formula, try to find in C++ code
RioMcBoo
if you talk about Zone/Area Id - i don't know, i have not extracted these data fโฆ
Bill
Jun 22, 2026 ยท 01:01
No I just need X Y Z
Bill
Jun 22, 2026 ยท 01:02
Thank you
Celeby
Jun 23, 2026 ยท 15:19
Is there a recommended MySQL version or is this totally up to the user? I know the minimum version is 8 but am wondering if it is โrecommendedโ to upgrade to 9 for example or 8.4โฆ
Ovahlord
Jun 23, 2026 ยท 15:30
Just use the latest lts version
Celeby
Jun 27, 2026 ยท 14:06
Any idea if there is a DB creature flag that will lead to a npc not leaving a corpse behind and just disappearing? or would that be more a script issue? my deadmines boss does not leave a corpse at all with loot ๐
Shauren
Jun 27, 2026 ยท 14:07
is your boss summoner or a permanent spawn? some summons behave like that
Celeby
Any idea if there is a DB creature flag that will lead to a npc not leaving a coโฆ
Nobuemon
Jun 27, 2026 ยท 14:36
check the TempSummonType
Celeby
Jun 27, 2026 ยท 15:07
I have the issue with 2 separate bosses:
Admiral Ripsnarl - this is a db spawn
Captain Cookie - Summoned by Ripsnarl...
Celeby
Jun 27, 2026 ยท 15:09
@Shauren I even attempted to spawn Cookie from the map with:
me->GetMap()->SummonCreature(Creatures::CaptainCookie, Positions::RipsnarlCaptainCookieSpawn);
Celeby
Jun 27, 2026 ยท 15:09
but still same issue... corpse just disappears
Naddley
Jun 27, 2026 ยท 15:36 (edited)
TempSummonType, with this you can decide what happens after death/unsummon for Summoned crestures
Celeby
Jun 27, 2026 ยท 15:44
Ok so i need to specify the type? Which one is the correct one then? Because if I do not specify the default is TEMPSUMMON_MANUAL_DESPAWN
Celeby
Jun 27, 2026 ยท 15:46 (edited)
The strange part is that I do not have that issue with the other bosses... all db spawns ofc.
Celeby
Jun 27, 2026 ยท 20:55
I tried alsome->SummonCreature(Creatures::CaptainCookie, Positions::RipsnarlCaptainCookieSpawn, TEMPSUMMON_CORPSE_TIMED_DESPAWN, 120s); but still cookie despawns after death ๐
ModoX
Jun 28, 2026 ยท 01:29
I kinda recall that there was something about it when creatures have no loot. To make sure i'd suggest debugging AddObjectToRemoveList
Celeby
Jun 28, 2026 ยท 07:16
Iโll have another look ๐ or 2 or three! Thanks all

