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Ryan Turner May 09, 2026 ยท 17:05
I thought realmlist.wtf didn't work at all. I need to trace back to each of the patches worked or if any is needed.
Ovahlord May 09, 2026 ยท 20:26
realmlist.wtf does work
svartask May 13, 2026 ยท 07:16
A stripped-down (not full) version of the Cata 442 client can be downloaded from the Whitemane CDN, but it doesn't have the retail directory or the build.info file, so maybe something else is missing.
Shauren May 13, 2026 ยท 07:39
of course it doesnt have _retail_ because thats for retail, it should have _classic_
Rhyic May 25, 2026 ยท 15:40
Hello, how possible would it be to add playerbots? (not NPC bots)
Rhyic May 25, 2026 ยท 15:44 (edited)
I'm fairly new to private server, but do have some experience with c++ and DBs, mainly used azerothcore and have started looking at cata servers. I love trinitycore as I found a fork with most of the gilneas quest line fixed. But I'm used to playerbots in azerothcore, I've seen that mangos three has them but the gilneas quest line is buggy and incomplete. Just wanted to see.
Rhyic I'm fairly new to private server, but do have some experience with c++ and DBs, โ€ฆ
M'Dic (Man/BugarSooger) May 27, 2026 ยท 12:18
Az is just a fork for tc with their weird bandaids and ai slop reviews.
M'Dic (Man/BugarSooger) May 27, 2026 ยท 12:18 (edited)
Whatever works there can work here
M'Dic (Man/BugarSooger) Whatever works there can work here
Rhyic May 27, 2026 ยท 15:40
Ok, brill. Thank you, I'll have a look into it. Is there any resources that will help with it?
Rhyic Ok, brill. Thank you, I'll have a look into it. Is there any resources that willโ€ฆ
Ryan Turner May 27, 2026 ยท 16:37
Probably someone already forked 434 TC and added Playerbot, but unlike AC, don't except a add a module is working, you would need to modify the core itself to have bots, Mdic up here probably knows more since he does the SP repacks
Ryan Turner Probably someone already forked 434 TC and added Playerbot, but unlike AC, don'tโ€ฆ
Rhyic May 27, 2026 ยท 18:16
All of the repacks I'm finding aren't free (Also heard some bad stories about some, viruses, etc), I'll have to look into adding it myself, I'll see how I get on. Thank you!
Ryan Turner May 27, 2026 ยท 18:18
Didn't recommend repacks
Ryan Turner Probably someone already forked 434 TC and added Playerbot, but unlike AC, don'tโ€ฆ
M'Dic (Man/BugarSooger) May 27, 2026 ยท 19:23
๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ havnt done a wow one in a while. Thats the new devs. I focus on other preservation projects now. Mainly non-mmo
M'Dic (Man/BugarSooger) May 27, 2026 ยท 19:23
I think its been 3 years since i did a mmo project of any kind
Ryan Turner Didn't recommend repacks
Rhyic May 28, 2026 ยท 07:38
Sorry, I have looked at the forks but couldn't find any talking about playerbots implementation. When doing a google search for 'trinitycore 4.3.4 playerbots' the first search is for a repack. But I'll continue looking.
Alex Jun 13, 2026 ยท 19:17
anyone know if it's possible to download anywhere the cataclysm classic 4.4.2 client?
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Naddley Jun 13, 2026 ยท 19:18
We dont share or link clients here.
Naddley Jun 13, 2026 ยท 19:18
since its not available anymore on bnet youre on your own but not here.
Alex Jun 13, 2026 ยท 19:19
just asking, because I was watching the trinitycore github, and it says that only supports the 4.4.2
Alex Jun 13, 2026 ยท 19:19
but can't find it anywhere
Naddley Jun 13, 2026 ยท 19:19
TrinityCore Open Source MMO Framework (master = 12.0.5.67823, 3.3.5 = 3.3.5a.12340, cata classic = 4.4.2.60895) - TrinityCore/TrinityCore
Alex Jun 13, 2026 ยท 19:19
yeah, that one
Naddley Jun 13, 2026 ยท 19:20
thats everything we support. Client is a your problem^^
Alex Jun 13, 2026 ยท 19:20
ok I see
Alex Jun 13, 2026 ยท 19:20
so then, for example
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Alex Jun 13, 2026 ยท 19:20
a cata classic client in the 4.4.0 would work?
Alex Jun 13, 2026 ยท 19:21
or not
Naddley Jun 13, 2026 ยท 19:21
no
Alex Jun 13, 2026 ยท 19:21
ouh shet
Naddley Jun 13, 2026 ยท 19:21
you need a client with exactly 4.4.2.60895
Alex Jun 13, 2026 ยท 19:21
then that0s weird
Alex Jun 13, 2026 ยท 19:21
yeah I see
Alex Jun 13, 2026 ยท 19:21
will the whitemane one works? or it's patched
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Naddley Jun 13, 2026 ยท 19:21
Im not whitemane and we dont support pserver stuff
Alex Jun 13, 2026 ยท 19:22
ok ok
Alex Jun 13, 2026 ยท 19:22
thanks anyways
KaizerRaize Jun 16, 2026 ยท 04:41 (edited)
Hey guys Iโ€™m trying to set up a local cat server for solo play I set up wrath and am loving it, for cata I have a running world and bnet server but when I try to log in itโ€™s unable to connect everytime, any troubleshooting tips? My client is 4.3.4
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Naddley Jun 16, 2026 ยท 05:51
If you use preservation you need to patch the client.
brian8544 Jun 23, 2026 ยท 20:29
Oversights or issues related to using Boost 1.9x? No idea if worth making PR to make it build again ๐Ÿ‘
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Shauren Jun 23, 2026 ยท 20:31
for stormlib idk
Shauren Jun 23, 2026 ยท 20:31 (edited)
for boost do git cherry-pick -x c87a004a1688f5dfe463493fbcd47027ea1dcf2e to have a higher chance of having the PR change accepted (<https://github.com/TrinityCore/TrinityCore/commit/c87a004a1688f5dfe463493fbcd47027ea1dcf2e>)
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Ovahlord Jun 24, 2026 ยท 04:28
The fuck is that stormlib change. It never changed in over a decade
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Nyrionix Jun 26, 2026 ยท 18:16
Hello everyone, Iโ€™m currently working on version 4.4.2 but there are a lot of opcodes missing. If someone could help me, that would be really nice and I could help in return.
Ovahlord The fuck is that stormlib change. It never changed in over a decade
chipzz Jun 28, 2026 ยท 02:02
I see quite some activity on stormlib in the whoa discord...
NuptupTDOW Jul 02, 2026 ยท 17:31
Hey there, just now getting into looking at setting up a Cata server to mess around in. I have seen the statement that the TC uses 4.4.2.60895 client, and others claiming it uses a 4.3.4 client, and then there's claims that you could use the Whitemane Gilneas client. I was just wondering if someone could help me iron out what is actually correct, what client is compatible, and where would be the best place to start with setting up my own mostly solo server?
tb Jul 02, 2026 ยท 18:03 (edited)
It depends on if you use the cata classic branch or cataclysm preservation fork.
NuptupTDOW Jul 02, 2026 ยท 18:04
What's the differences pros and cons of each option?
Naddley Jul 02, 2026 ยท 18:14
cata_classic has no single content scripted and is based on a newer client preservation has some content scripted and has the old 434 launcher but you need to patch it to be able to connect
Naddley Jul 02, 2026 ยท 18:15
Both is not even near playable.
NuptupTDOW Jul 02, 2026 ยท 18:32
Gotcha, I thought they might be further along since things like Warmane Gilneas exist at this point. Annoyingly, they are blocking access to US based players, so that's not an option for me. >.>
chipzz Jul 02, 2026 ยท 18:35
One peculiar thing about Cataclysm is that it's special, in that it can use both the old and new on-the-wire protocol; Cataclysm is when Blizzard themselves transitioned
Shauren Jul 02, 2026 ยท 18:35
no wtf are you talking about
Shauren Jul 02, 2026 ยท 18:35
stop
NuptupTDOW Gotcha, I thought they might be further along since things like Warmane Gilneas โ€ฆ
Naddley Jul 02, 2026 ยท 18:35
pservers dont contribute or share there stuff. ppl prefer to work private instead of working on open sources like TC
NuptupTDOW Jul 02, 2026 ยท 18:36
That really sucks...
NuptupTDOW That really sucks...
chipzz Jul 02, 2026 ยท 18:36
It's hardly the only thing that "sucks" about pservers, and it's hardly the only one being problematic
Naddley Jul 02, 2026 ยท 18:36
you have vanilla/tbc/wotlk in playable nothing more
NuptupTDOW Hey there, just now getting into looking at setting up a Cata server to mess aroโ€ฆ
Nyrionix Jul 02, 2026 ยท 22:07
Hi, no, you can't use an emulator on 4.4.2 with a client on 4.3.4 because the 4.3.4 client is completely different from 4.4.2. To run the 4.4.2 emulator, you need compatible DBC, map, VMAP, MMAP files and the associated client.
Nyrionix Jul 02, 2026 ยท 22:09
but it's completely true that you can use the Whitemane client
Nyrionix Jul 02, 2026 ยท 22:19
But to learn, you can use the TCPP emulator which is very good; it's based on a TrinityCore branch. Ovahlord Shauren and the others did a really great job.
NuptupTDOW Hey there, just now getting into looking at setting up a Cata server to mess aroโ€ฆ
Ovahlord Jul 03, 2026 ยท 07:44
let's clear up things here a bit. 4.4.2 is the cataclysm classic re-boot of blizzard from last year. This is what the cata_classic branch is made for. 4.3.4 is the old original version which is supported by my old fork which is often refered to as TCPP. That's the old client from 2012. Both of these have completely different protocols, data formats and underlying systems so consequently you cannot mix these up. With that being said, cata_classic is essentially no longer supported as I am not going to further work on that branch as the client did not live up to my expectations. Funjoker eventually tried to bring wotlk_classic back from the dead when the chinese re-release happened but after not getting any contributions again, this one ended up stale as well.
NuptupTDOW Jul 04, 2026 ยท 21:55
Gotcha. Well alrighty. I guess my idea is kinda not realistic at the moment.
Ovahlord let's clear up things here a bit. 4.4.2 is the cataclysm classic re-boot of blizโ€ฆ
Twilightsky Jul 15, 2026 ยท 14:50
so are both project abandon then? both TCPP and cata classic?
Ovahlord Jul 15, 2026 ยท 14:52
Exactly
Anduin Llane Wrynn Jul 19, 2026 ยท 04:45 (edited)
When getting the error, StormLibRAD.lib cannot be opened. Wouldn't #define STORMLIB_NO_STATIC_LINK this force the check if it is out of the if statements on StormLib.h or is there an better away around this, from it stopping the extractor from working?
jackpoz Jul 25, 2026 ยท 09:12
is that the only error ?
Ovahlord Jul 25, 2026 ยท 09:36
it's the only error on windows only apparently as I cannot reproduce this on linux at all
Shauren Jul 25, 2026 ยท 09:57
ofc you cant reproduce it on linux
Shauren Jul 25, 2026 ยท 09:59
fyi casclib has the same code (same author) and i disable it on master <https://github.com/TrinityCore/TrinityCore/blob/master/dep/CascLib/CMakeLists.txt#L64> (CASCLIB_NO_AUTO_LINK_LIBRARY) because our cmakelists produce different filenames
jackpoz is that the only error ?
Anduin Llane Wrynn Jul 25, 2026 ยท 14:47
Sorry just seen your reply and no it wasn't the only error, but both are fixed now with the update. The other one was boost system that it wanted, so I was just using boost 1.85.0 until it got fixed, thanks.
andriuspel Aug 16, 2026 ยท 19:42
i have a quick question, in 4.3.4, which is correct way to remove vehicle ui for player without removing charm control or editing dbc/mpq? example: https://www.wowhead.com/quest=25205/the-wolf-and-the-kodo
Ovahlord Aug 16, 2026 ยท 20:02
using the correct vehicleId
andriuspel Aug 16, 2026 ยท 20:11 (edited)
wolf vehicle id is 690 (sniff value), first seat is controllable, second seat does not have related control flags, but vehicle ui remains in second seat after switch
andriuspel Aug 16, 2026 ยท 20:15 (edited)
seat 1 -> 7631, seat 2 -> 7632, first theory for now, this vehicle maybe was altered in later expansions. Also wolf vehicle entry is: 39364. Anyways I didn't encountered with this behavior before when I was scripting 3.3.5a content
Ovahlord Aug 16, 2026 ยท 20:21
by the looks of the video it clearly is a seat switch, check the spline packets to make sure that you enter the right seat
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Ovahlord Exactly
NuptupTDOW Aug 21, 2026 ยท 00:03
Seeing as both projects are mostly abandoned at this point, is there any reason to pick one over the other for messing around with? You mentioned that the cata_classic client didn't live up to your expectations. Could you elaborate on what it lacked that made it not worth pursuing in favor of sticking to (and also abandoning) the TCPP branch? I guess what I'm trying to ask is, the Cata_Classic Client should be the better client just due to the 13 years of innovation/optimization that occurred between the two in addition to having the benefit of utilizing the modern add-on database and such. So, if both have been deemed "abandoned", is there any reason to NOT do my fiddling about with the Cata_Classic version instead of using the (to my understanding) "weaker" and/or out-dated original client with the TCPP version?
NuptupTDOW Aug 21, 2026 ยท 01:03
I guess you've started working on a new fresh build version. Just saw the post on reddit. I'm pretty excited to see that it's not just the death of your cata efforts. Also, what channel is the correct one to talk about the cata_classic branch as well as your new idea? I'd like to follow along if possible!
NuptupTDOW Aug 24, 2026 ยท 22:53
Heya, I got a Cata server up and running and I was wondering if anyone knew of a good place to start for allowing characters to bypass the Dk, Goblin and Worgen starting zones? Currently, even auto-max-level 85 characters can't leave those zones, even using gm commands. Was wondering if anyone had an idea on what to do? I'm using the CataLuna434 core which is the Tirinity434 with Eluna baked into it.
NuptupTDOW Aug 31, 2026 ยท 15:18
I've recently deployed a Cata434 Server with Eluna using the ElunaCataclysmPreservation repo on GitHub. The server is online, players can join, Eluna is confirmed to be working. I have a few custom scripts active to make sure it works. It's Cata, so obviously it's going to have bugs since not really anyone's priority, but I just wanted to know how to "properly" contribute to making it better. I believe the Cata Preservation was a fork of the last Trinity 434 branch before it got dumped in favor of the Cata classic version. And then the version in using is a fork from the Cata Preservation to include Eluna functionality. So, I guess what I'm trying to ask is, when I come across bugs or issues that I want to document and eventually work through, would the proper place to post those reports be in the Eluna Cata Preservation GitHub or the original Cata Preservation GitHub? I highly doubt there would be any reason to post in the original Trinity 434 GitHub, so I figure the above two options would make the most sense. I just want to help report and maybe fix things as I can along the way while I work on my server. Any advice or guidance would be appreciated!
Naddley Aug 31, 2026 ยท 15:27
Always the source you use. So ElunaCataSomething.
jackpoz Aug 31, 2026 ยท 15:36
Ideally set up a clean TC 434 and test the issues there to exclude Eluna causing them, but I'm not sure if 434 will get any attention
jackpoz Aug 31, 2026 ยท 15:36
It's worth a try anyway
tb Aug 31, 2026 ยท 18:28 (edited)
We don't maintain the eluna cata version the cata fork was archived over two years ago when the original cata preservation was archived
NuptupTDOW Aug 31, 2026 ยท 19:44
So, I guess ultimately, it is unlikely that there will be any traction with anything posted, and mainly just fend for myself? That's okay if that's the case, I just want to make sure I'm not going to be wasting a bunch of time and effort going out of my way to explicitly document and fixes and implementations I make, if it's not going to ever be used. If that's the case, I would rather just do stuff as it comes up and just not bother with a more clinical documentation process, if that makes sense?
Naddley Aug 31, 2026 ยท 19:46
Most of the 434 branches are abandoned
NuptupTDOW Aug 31, 2026 ยท 19:46
Really kinda disappointing that Cata is not as popular as others. Like, the option is go play Whitemane for Cata Classic, but without ANY of the quality of life stuff and extra content that Classic added, orrrrrrrrrrrr "Suffer" lol.
Naddley Aug 31, 2026 ยท 19:47
You would get support for cata_classic
NuptupTDOW Aug 31, 2026 ยท 19:47
I considered Cata classic as well, but as discussed earlier in this channel, that's also abandoned. https://discord.com/channels/376073286427344897/376457068506382336/1522293709838745661
Naddley Aug 31, 2026 ยท 19:49
Well, cata_classic gets atm some updates from Ovah and Im still into fixxing cata stuff on master which will be picked to classic
Naddley Aug 31, 2026 ยท 19:49
But idk how long the "gets updates" continues ^^
NuptupTDOW Aug 31, 2026 ยท 19:51
Gotcha. Then I guess, what would I need in order to set up and need around in a Cata Classic build? And, ultimately, what are/would the pros and cons be for 442 Classic vs 434+Eluna?
Naddley Aug 31, 2026 ยท 19:52
Well, cata_classic is ofc more sandbox then 434. But in terms of future the client is more "future proof" ^^
Naddley Aug 31, 2026 ยท 19:54
A bit of content is allready ported by me to classic (Westfall, first few quests of Gilneas) but I didnt touched dungeons and raids yet to port over.
Naddley Aug 31, 2026 ยท 19:59
Oh and ofc classes are not scripted in classic^^
Ovahlord Aug 31, 2026 ยท 20:00
and you need a legit client. that shitpile that this pserver trash whitemane ships is incomplete
NuptupTDOW Aug 31, 2026 ยท 22:33
Gotcha
NuptupTDOW Aug 31, 2026 ยท 22:34
So, how much has actually been done in og-cata so far? Have any of the dungeons or raids been set up?
NuptupTDOW Aug 31, 2026 ยท 23:54
I guess mainly I want to know if i'm just, genuinely wasting my time. My server concept kinda is just raid-focused, so if they're not even remotely working.., i'm kinda screwed...
Ovahlord Sep 01, 2026 ยท 05:39
they are not. If you want things fixed - don't wait until someone else does it, get to work